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RE:hot for jesus former fundie
(Date Posted:12/15/2007 14:04:38)
Welcome to the forum. I love your blog! I've got it bookmarked already; I like to keep track of good sites that knock bricks out of the fundy wall. What type of church were you a part of? I used to attend the Church of God (Anderson, IN). They weren't pentecostal, but "holiness", which still was about as crazy sometimes as the pentecostals were.
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teandoranges
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RE:hot for jesus former fundie
(Date Posted:12/15/2007 23:49:17)
Thank you, shadowself. It's good to be here! What type of church? I lose track... i'll be writing about it in my blog: everything from being part of the founding members of a Southern Baptist church on the canadian border... to e free... covenant... hipster... mega churches.... but... mostly baptist and evangelical free. Was there speaking in tongues in the "church of god" churches? Healing? We attended the Assembly of God for a while, but it was too pentecostal for my folks. Nevertheless, i remember a few mind blowing services. In what way is the "holiness" tradition a part of fundamentalism. Curious to know more. To those who participate in these forums: How do you all feel about blogs providing links to forums like this... as a part of a support network for those coming out of the fundamental closet?
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snakechic
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Reply To teandoranges
(Date Posted:01/06/2009 18:33:02)
Reply to teandoranges (12/13/2007 18:20:02)
I'm so glad to have found this forum. I grew up in, was born-again and baptized into fundamentalism. I left the church about 6 years ago. Finally worked up the guts to write about it publicly: www.hotforjesusformerfundie.blogspot.com. It's in the beginning stages. I have a lot of goodies planned... both humourous and serious. Check out the progress.
Thanks for starting this group!
teandoranges all that 'jesus' stuff is not funny to me but I"m happy to bump this up. I guess I"m over it to larger extent not being so newly 'out'. I don't mean to sound pouncey or up meself... I also have doubts about mocking an imaginary or mythical character. (see also 'god')....bit like poking holes in air. I get more s- a - t -i-s-f-a-c-t-i-o-n...in going for the real live christian and poking holes in the dogma - lifestyle - beliefs etc etc etc...
(Message edited by snakechic On 01/06/2009 18:34:04)
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In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince people that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy person living in a natural, intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, woman(man) is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.
-- George H Smith, Atheism: The Case Against God
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snakechic
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Reply To teandoranges
(Date Posted:01/06/2009 18:44:16)
Reply to teandoranges (12/15/2007 23:49:17)
Was there speaking in tongues in the "church of god" churches? Healing? We attended the Assembly of God for a while, but it was too pentecostal for my folks. Nevertheless, i remember a few mind blowing services. In what way is the "holiness" tradition a part of fundamentalism. Curious to know more.
To those who participate in these forums: How do you all feel about blogs providing links to forums like this... as a part of a support network for those coming out of the fundamental closet? I don't know...I don't think anyone can define 'fundamentalist' these days. I think its more about denominational competition for bums on seats and the need to offer something different than the 'other' church. Considering the tradition of the 'HOME CHURCH' MOVEMENT' within christianity...I'd say since this old post/thread there has been thousands of NEW christian churches created!! I guess there is also a huge need for some christians to be in charge...to be the main man - the prophet etc etc... anyway... there's not a concise or clean little answer. The blog... yeah..trillions of em' these days. So many with so much to so. ? it gets boring for me in the end....reading the same old same old... speaking of which.... haha....sorry to bore you all' folks.... I have now finished bumping ... seeya next time
(Message edited by snakechic On 01/06/2009 18:46:44)
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In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince people that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy person living in a natural, intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, woman(man) is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.
-- George H Smith, Atheism: The Case Against God
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teandoranges
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Re:hot for jesus former fundie
(Date Posted:05/31/2009 21:21:16)
snakechic: thanks for the reply. I work hard on finding humor in the extreme BS of all the fundie deprogramming... and sometimes it works better than others. Hot Jesus is the schtick, as in 'you gotta have a gimmick'... and I have to agree with you, sometimes it is very difficult to find any humor in it. I have discovered that the blog has definitely helped me get IT out of my system, and care less and less. Currently I'm writing a post as funny as I can make it, and at the same time it makes me sooo angry. I've learned to Walk Away from my blog whenever the anger gets the upper hand... and yet sometimes I have used that anger to attempt to write as concise of a diatribe that 'pokes holes' in the dogma. Poking holes in the hotness of the imaginary JC is merely therapeutic... the bane of all blogs i'm afraid... public therapy. It gives me a chance to laugh at my former self... I always need a reminder to take life a little less seriously. Humor can be a very powerful weapon against dogma. I do my best.
You mention Home Churches... and i've been there... it eventually morphed into a southern baptist church, but the Home Churching is responsible for some the most extreme scenarios of my christian education. It's good that you mention it, because those churches yield so much power over the people involved.... and it's a lot easier to get by with a lot more extreme BS. It also is a backlash against the mega churches. More cultish than most other forms of worship. And, no, there isn't really anything we can do about it. But good to put the reminder out there.
Once again, thanks for the bumps and forum.
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snakechic
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Re:hot for jesus former fundie
(Date Posted:08/13/2009 22:29:27)
Yep...sometimes nothing helps like writing and blogging...to get it out of your system. Anger I think...it very essential to express.
Great stuff!!!
Um....yeah ..the 'home church' movement is the scariest to me...they have even less accountability and NO one is watching. I feel particularly cautious for the little kids who are at the most risk of being abused in these 'private' places. Yeah....you can say that again...MORE CULTISH. A lot of the mega churches have originated from such small beginnings.
Keep on writing!!
seeya.
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In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince people that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy person living in a natural, intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, woman(man) is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.
-- George H Smith, Atheism: The Case Against God
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