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(Date Posted:01/20/2008 1:42 AM)

The best way to understand the basics of fundamentalism is to hear it from the horse's mouth. The Fundamentals: A Testimony to the Truth, originally published in the early 1900's, is available online. This work is often quoted as containing the nuts and bolts of the Christian fundamentalist belief system.  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6528/fundcont.htm?200820    I have only glanced at some of the chapters, but thought I'd post the link in case anyone is brave enough to  plod their way through it.  Take an aspirin first, though.

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RE:The Fundamentals: A Testimony to the Truth
(Date Posted:01/22/2008 6:47 AM)

Sorry I haven't the time to look into it....
but I'd have to say that anything written in the early 1900's about the 'fundamentalist' movement is waaay out of date.......simply meaning that 'fundamentalism' has changed..is changing - so as far as it representing its belief system ? - not even the fundies/christians have been able to stop changing there own 'rules' and guidelines..interpretations - dogma etc.

& doesn't that tickle me! Heehheee..

(I can imagine it being a mawfull ....reading anything written by fundies usually is. )

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(I can imagine it being a mawfull ....reading anything written by fundies usually is. )

Oh yeah, it has 90 chapters!  I have no plans on reading it all either, but thought it might be interesting to post, in case anyone wants to have a look (know your enemies!) and see what many of todays beliefs are based on.  And you are right, in that fundamentalism has changed, no matter how much they deny it (fundies claim to hate change, and worship absolutes).  Nothing can survive if it doesn't change.  It would be interesting to find a point in these books that present day fundies have forgotten or tweeked a bit, and use it against them, but I'm sure they'd have a ready retort for such a situation. 

(Message edited by Shadowself on 01/22/2008 7:49 PM)

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