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M.S. Pecks. - People of the lie. - here's an example of why:-sourcethis kind of shit makes people crazy. I personally don't like any of his stuff but this one is the top of dung pile.FromA class=amail href="mailto:jackie">jackieDate26 Sep 2003 04:25 GDTI AM A 40 YEAR OLD, christian, happily married, mother of 2 children. . .I am also the daughter of a person such as those that are described in Peck's book PEOPLE OF THE LIE. Since reading his book and becoming acutely aware of the "evil" behind my mother's parenting, I am now unsure of how to communicate with her. We live across the country from each other and usually talk on the phone and or e-mail weekly. Since no personal confrontation is acknowledged by her without a huge fight, I find it hard to go on pretending that her "lies" don't exist and other talk seems superficial to me. She, however would like to confront me on all subjects, all the time. Any thoughts on anything ashort of an intervention?CommentsPost a New CommentRespond to this DocumentRefresh DiscussionHelpM.ScottPeckpeople of the lie(A class=amail href="mailto:jackie">jackie, 26 Sep 2003 04:25 GDT)Jackie'sQuestion@Mother(Cori gunnells, 24 Oct 2003 06:16 GDT)Hearingtheunheardcry(Nadine, 03 Jun 2004 07:50 GDT)PeopleoftheLie(Don Andrews, 13 Jul 2004 21:57 GDT)HopeforHealing(A class=amail href="mailto:Richard Choquette">Richard Choquette, 14 Jul 2004 16:38 GDT)PeopleoftheLie(Rae, 25 Jul 2004 00:40 GDT)

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In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince people that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy person living in a natural, intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, woman(man) is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.

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M.S. Pecks. - People of the lie. - here's an example of why:-sourcethis kind of shit makes people crazy. I personally don't like any of his stuff but this one is the top of dung pile.FromA class=amail href="mailto:jackie">jackie


I have tried to read his stuff before but it did nothing for me.  christians seem to like him but I did not get the impression he really was a christian myself. I just could not get into his books anyway. The one i did manage to read seemed to much like a feel goody, new agey, me-as-the-center-of-the-universe, poor little me, etc. etc. Reading these posts gives me the same feelings.
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Reply to : snakechicM.S. Pecks. - People of the lie. - here's an example of why:-sourcethis kind of shit makes people crazy. I personally don't like any of his stuff but this one is the top of dung pile.FromA class=amail href="mailto:jackie">jackieI have tried to read his stuff before but it did nothing for me. christians seem to like him but I did not get the impression he really was a christian myself. I just could not get into his books anyway. The one i did manage to read seemed to much like a feel goody, new agey, me-as-the-center-of-the-universe, poor little me, etc. etc. Reading these posts gives me the same feelings.



 


I read his book "People of the Lie" The chapter about Magical Thinking kind of stuck with me--not exactly in a positive way. He seemed to be kind of .. burned out in his profession, as if he had gotten tired of trying of figure out why his patients had problems and decided to attibute all their ills to a Satanic-like force. Kind of boring when you get right down to it.

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In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince people that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy person living in a natural, intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, woman(man) is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.

-- George H Smith, Atheism: The Case Against God

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OMG - I had to laugh.  I'm attempting to read the Celestine Prophecy right now.  I've had to start over once because it just doesn't keep my attention and I couldn't remember anything that had happened thus far!  It sort of reads like a "B" movie, I think!  I can't even say that I have read enough to comment on what it's "message" is!


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