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(Date Posted:12/25/2005 02:20:14)
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pretend that everything was wonderful and wait for The Lord to hear my silent cries to fix things, which He never did. Suffice it to say that Eph. 5:22 is one of the most loathsome passages of scripture known to those bearing the XX-chromosome! 
Welcome and Happy Boxing Day!
I'm currently thinking on the the theme of "athenticity"....what it means to live an authentic life......and how fundies and sometimes exfundies (with family still influencing life) are forced by the virtue of their membership into the fundyworld that they choose to live a lie. No wonder thechristian/fundy world must end....its a doomed way to lived aint it! Pity ....because there is an alternative! Yeah ........it sounds as if you have choose to do just that.
Boyohboy ! and that divide between women and men is hard to shift - meaning submissiveness in women is viewed as 'normal' and even more, that women with these qualities are 'real' women. and the "other" kind are some how 'devient'...dare I say 'sluts' and/or "powerful demonic seducers" of 'good and faithful' men...................its just makes me wanna scream. (shows you how much the feminine is 'feared' !.......yay the Goddess Rocks!
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In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince people that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy person living in a natural, intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, woman(man) is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.
-- George H Smith, Atheism: The Case Against God
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(Date Posted:12/25/2005 04:46:59)
Being a pastor's wife is of the most soul-crushing things that can happen to someone.
When I was still attending a Southern Baptist Church, the wives of the elders and the pastor would walk in with the same forlon look on their face. It was difficult to watch sometimes. All the expectations and double standards forced upon women by fundy men affects the pastor's wife most of all, for her conduct and her personality is a reflection on her husband's "godliness." She is allowed to have no income of her own, no personality of her own, nothing of her won.
The talks I had with my pastor made opne thing clear; I was expected to enter a one-sided, traditional marraige where my only purpose was to serve my husband and have babies. And I was going to him for counseling and in my darkest hour he was still spouting this sexist garbage! Shows you how much he respects women like you and me. And I'm sure that if you did confide your true feelings on matters there would always be one person who would tell everyone they can find that you are not trusting enough in God and taunt you with Bible verses if you disagreed with anything you said. And I'm sure that anything that went wrong with the marraige was considered your fault.
As you know, the life of a pastor's wife is one compelety devoid of freedom. There was only one way to raise your kids, there was only one right way to relate to your husband and family, there was only one way to dress, and so forth. The very force that "saved" so many ahd your hands tied behind your back, leaving you powerless to fight back agaisnt the wall of internal strife and despair that was treatening to destroy you. I hope your kids aren't still in that fundy environment.
Good for you for ending that travesty of a marriage and moving on with your life! You're my hero.
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"I"m not a witch, but I wish I was. If I live I"d be a witch now after what they have done. I"ll burn their crops and kill their animals. I"ll stir up such storms. I"ll scatter their ships across the world. If I could meet with the devil right now, I would give him anything for power, for he is the only way to power for women in this world. I shouldn"t have been afraid of Ellen, I should have learnt. Oh, if I only had magic, I"d make them feel it."
Caryl Churchill, "Vinegar Tom"
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(Date Posted:12/27/2005 19:52:29)
First off, good for you for getting out of that hellhole.
Also, Fundamentalist husbands always like to forget/ignore the passage in the Bible where men are supposed to love their wives so much that they would sacrifice anything for them. Unfortunately, many of these people are so deluded that they think that they are saving their wives from damnation by oppressing them!
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(Date Posted:12/28/2005 09:54:21)
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First off, good for you for getting out of that hellhole.Also, Fundamentalist husbands always like to forget/ignore the passage in the Bible where men are supposed to love their wives so much that they would sacrifice anything for them. Unfortunately, many of these people are so deluded that they think that they are saving their wives from damnation by oppressing them!
He thought he loved me so much he would sacrifice anything; but it never occurred to him, and he never did thoroughly listen to me, that HIS concept of love and MY concept of love were 2 completely different things.
My oldest son (who is 24-years old now, and a Buddhist) went to visit him at Christmas. He told me he will never be visiting his father again. My ex had the gall during the dinner prayer to mock his son's choice of faith ("and Jesus, please look out for my son, even though he's a stupid Buddhist.")
What a putz.
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(Date Posted:12/30/2005 02:59:25)
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Never ceases to amaze how fundies are still following the lead of the RC's even though most of them brand catholics as antichrists, babylon etc. How is it they reject their authority and retain their book? The bible has so many misogynist passages I often wonder how any female can stomach it! It was not that long ago(last century I think)that catholics finally relented and declared that women have a soul! Imagine that, the most powerful and influential organisation for the last two thousand years holding to a dogma that females were so much less than a male. 
Regardless of whether or not a soul actually exists, to teach for so long that women do not have one is a level of disempowerment that reeks of the need to control. Kudos to you for having the guts to break free!
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just now getting to read your background, k10w3...........i'm sure your choice to leave wasn't easy, because of your children........there's a point we all get to sometimes, as anais nin put it, "when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom."
i don't know if many fundy women understand how their complicity in the lifestyle is the source for the discontentment, anger and bitterness that eventually creates the children who so often break their hearts later. my own mother will never see the tie between her own depression and behaviors and my decision to walk away, my supposed immorality and other problems which separate us now. you made the connection......good for you!
and your ex is a dork. his very religious creed prohibits him from sacrificing "everything" for you or any human connection!!
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