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Mistercyrano
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(Date Posted:05/03/2003 22:41:27)
I guess this is where I share my plight about the political shortcomings of organized christian religion. Well, to begin, religion, the word, traces its roots back to re and ligare, I believe it's Latin but I could be wrong. Re, of course, meaning again, and ligare, meaning binding or bound to. Thus, religion, in the historical, etymological context, means to bind one's self back to God. Don't know how it became eqauted with God, though I am sure the Romans, in all their hypocritical glory had something to do with this verbal innovation. I was saved after living a life of destitution served up by my seemingly innate desire for drugs, or rather the separation they provided me from pre-existing familial issues of abuse. After turning myself in, so to speak, to a treatment center, ("Christian-based") I began to do what good little Christians are supposed to do, or so I thought. My tour of duty included everything from attending one fundamental church and no other, all the way to even preaching to a small population of homeless pariahs in the selfsame mission from which I eventually "graduated," or rather proving to the powers that were that I was clean and sober, and prepared to devote my life to the service of God and such. I went as far as tithing, and quite honestly, I attributed much of my newfound life, (being back in school and having a life) to my faith in God. What made me turn my face from the god of the church was when I was summarily cast as a bad seed for having a child out of wedlock, and with someone who was not faithful and young to boot. When I encountered opposition, I did not receive God-like support when I tried to do the right thing, and was even told by one senior of the church, of how much a sinner I was for commiting such an act of carnality. Naturally, when I sought guidance and help in the rather difficult and failing relationship I had with my daughter's mother, I didn't get what I sought. Instead, the focus was on "the wrongs" or "transgressions" I had committed, rather than what "God would do." In sum, the detterent nature of the auuthority of the church was what pulled me away from church. I was basically under the impression, though never directly told to me, that my child was essentially a bastard child. While I still maintain my faith in God, I do not practice in oraganized religion any further, for I believe that one's relationship with God is a personal one, and that no one man or woman is above another. I maintain my faith because I see evidence of God in my daughter, my changed life and other facets. My girlfreind, Cyranothe2nd, who is on here also, differs in large part to my faith, but her walking away was of quite the different sort than mine. I do not try to change her mind about God, for I feel that if she ever chooses to make that choice, it will be of her own volition, and she will not do it for me, but for herself. On the other hand, I respect her views, for she is greatly warranted and has some of the same questions I do about why things are the way they are, and if she never makes a decision to believe again, I will love her just the same. In my heart and mind, being "equally yoked" as the bible puts it, is above the notion of believer being with non-believer. We are equally yoked because we eqaully love. That is my strife in brief, and I will make myself known to all when I become more familiar with how the boards work and such.
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There's no reason
There's no compromise
Changin' seasons
Livin the HI life
I don't know you
So don't freak on me
I can't control you
You're not my destiny
Straight OUT of LINE
I can't find a reason
Why I can't just stand by my way
Straight out of LINE
I don't need a reason
and you don't need to, don't need to lie to meeeeeee
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nologoboy
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(Date Posted:05/03/2003 23:30:07)
Reply to : Mistercyrano
hey, welcome mr.c.
i've always felt better about serving my notions of love than obeying my notions of faith. good luck with serving those two masters.  hope you stick around and share your views.
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"In the end we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we understand; and we will understand only what we have been taught." -Baba Dioum
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Mistercyrano
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(Date Posted:05/03/2003 23:55:54)
Reply to : nologoboy
Reply to : Mistercyranohey, welcome mr.c.i've always felt better about serving my notions of love than obeying my notions of faith. good luck with serving those two masters.hope you stick around and share your views.
nologoboy . . . perhaps I was not clear as to my stake and positions with faith and love. I don't "serve" faith and it is my faith, not the notion of servitude that drives my love. Not necessarily a faith in God per se, for I had the perception of love long before I had a perception of God. Faith is not something I obey. We all have beliefs in things, from that of simple and overlooked beliefs that are so commonplace, (such as believing that we will be paid for work) to that of beliefs in things less tangible like God or the hereafter. I do not separate the two in the manner which you think I do.
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There's no reason
There's no compromise
Changin' seasons
Livin the HI life
I don't know you
So don't freak on me
I can't control you
You're not my destiny
Straight OUT of LINE
I can't find a reason
Why I can't just stand by my way
Straight out of LINE
I don't need a reason
and you don't need to, don't need to lie to meeeeeee
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nologoboy
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(Date Posted:05/04/2003 01:22:05)
Reply to : Mistercyrano
Reply to : nologoboy I don't "serve" faith and it is my faith, not the notion of servitude that drives my love. Not necessarily a faith in God per se, for I had the perception of love long before I had a perception of God. Faith is not something I obey.
whoops! sorry, mr. c. just jokes. i tried to denote my playful smartassery by placing the 'wink' emoticon at the end of my statement. just pulling your leg. i enjoyed your intro and truly look forward to picking your brains in the future.
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"In the end we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we understand; and we will understand only what we have been taught." -Baba Dioum
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Cyranothe2nd
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(Date Posted:05/05/2003 05:55:50)
Honey honey honey~ There you are!
/cuteness before all WA members throw up
LOVE!
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Mistercyrano
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(Date Posted:05/05/2003 06:17:04)
Cuteness before all members what . . . . . Honey . . . . i love your weirdness!!!!!!!!! hahahaReply to : Cyranothe2nd
Honey honey honey~ There you are!/cuteness before all WA members throw up LOVE!
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There's no reason
There's no compromise
Changin' seasons
Livin the HI life
I don't know you
So don't freak on me
I can't control you
You're not my destiny
Straight OUT of LINE
I can't find a reason
Why I can't just stand by my way
Straight out of LINE
I don't need a reason
and you don't need to, don't need to lie to meeeeeee
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MrHighwind
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(Date Posted:05/05/2003 09:04:13)
Hey guys, ask him what the plural form of the word "formula" is.
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Are you free?
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Mistercyrano
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(Date Posted:05/05/2003 17:17:32)
Well the name says it all, Mr. "HIGH" wind. Erik, remember something bud, I study etymology. And although I do consult me beloved every once in a while since she has the superior intellect of the two of us (not by much) I am in college, that building where people go AFTER high school ya know, that higher institution of learning. AND FOR ALL OF YOU WHO CHOOSE TO DOUBT ME, consult any resource you wish: the PLURAL FOR FORMULA is FORMULAE. IT follows the same vowel ending roots of nouns like curriculum/curricula (not curriculi) atrium/atria, referendum/referenda. Although formulae does not contain the traditonal um to a ending, talk to any english professor, dictionary, professional writer (and this does not include all newspapers, since journalists are not professional "writers" per se). Keep your frame of thought confined to survivor Erik . . . . oh wait, you've been wrong about that too. As a matter of fact, let us consult the room in one of the main forums, the nucleus (plural being nuclei, not nucleuses) if you will, of walk away. Remember Erik, only the educated folk count. And of course youre always welcome to test the true professionals down at the University of Washington. We will make sure the processes (pronounced PROH-SES-EES, not PRAW-SESS-ESS as popular "opinionm" might dictate) are just and equitable, so as not to skew the results. My dictum, plural being dicta, will be based formal English, not colloquialism. And just to make you feel good Erik, formulas is in the dictionary. But if you trace the root this is an unstandardized modification to quell much early dissent among the politicos of early americans that said the English language was becoming too complicated. It kind of works in the same manner as regardless and irregardless. Irregardless is redundant yet still widely used, formulas is simplified lazy English. Ask Jenae about her Latin skills, maybe she will do some research for you. And by all means, use formulas as much as your heart desires, but try that in any formal setting, writing a paper for school, any technical documents such as medical, law, and the like, writing your own book one day, or even a good resume, and I gaurantee the college paper will be replete with red ink, the AMA or American Bar will laugh, your editor will demand its changing, and your possible future employer will play trashcan basketball with it. IRREGARDLESS of what you say, I will offer the tokenist acceptance of formulas as improper english but still some form thereof. BE COOL . . . . get in school!
Mistercyrano----a.k.a. Formulae 51
Reply to : MrHighwind
Hey guys, ask him what the plural form of the word "formula" is.
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There's no reason
There's no compromise
Changin' seasons
Livin the HI life
I don't know you
So don't freak on me
I can't control you
You're not my destiny
Straight OUT of LINE
I can't find a reason
Why I can't just stand by my way
Straight out of LINE
I don't need a reason
and you don't need to, don't need to lie to meeeeeee
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MrHighwind
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(Date Posted:05/07/2003 09:39:01)
Sean, I find your response to be condescending, derisive and completely uncalled for.
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God heard you talking in your sleep.
God knows all the secrets that you keep.
Are you free?
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