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nologoboy
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(Date Posted:03/25/2003 09:57:56)
Reply to : Ladyhawk
One of my passions is online gaming, mostly of the violent first-person shooter variety. Funny...I'm nearly a pacifist in real life, but I feel there's nothing wrong with a little virtual online bloodshed. My mother (and many fundies), on the other hand, detests violent video games, but supports real war. Weird, huh?Lately, I've become enthralled with Return to Castle Wolfenstein, though I do not know any of the maps except Beach.Any gamers on here who would like to join me?
i love the kind of games you are describing but i refuse to get into online gaming............hell, i even threw out my playstation. why? because my days go out the window. i am a game whore. therefore, i hardly ever indulge.
Wolfenstein is my utterly fave game. funny isn't it, laura?.......i am a total passifist but i love that first-person shootemup stuff too. if i ever feel that i had any hope of controlling my addictions then i will definitely give you a buzz. you know, i have never even had an online game. i know, i know!!!! ........but i just have too many addictions in my life....................((((sigh))))
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"In the end we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we understand; and we will understand only what we have been taught." -Baba Dioum
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Ladyhawk
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(Date Posted:03/25/2003 12:01:44)
I have been known to get a bit too involved myself.  Maybe we should find an abandoned server and frag one another for one hour. Then we have to stop.
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Some love is just a lie of the heart
The cold remains of what began with a passionate start
And they may not want it to end
But it will it's just a question of when
I've lived long enough to have learned
The closer you get to the fire the more you get burned
It's hard when you're always afraid
You just recover when another belief is betrayed
So break my heart if you must
It's a matter of trust
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Ladyhawk
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(Date Posted:03/26/2003 05:05:36)
I have a personal belief that violent video games are used as a scapegoat by the media and others as a cause of true crimes. My first impulse isn't to grab a real gun and go shoot people and I find myself very anti-war these days. Japan makes some of the most violent of video games, yet has a much lower per-capita crime rate than the U.S. (at least it did last time I checked).
I don't know if Sonora will ever play Bowling for Columbine. I haven't seen it, but I've often wondered what is at the heart of America's love affair with guns. What do you think?
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Some love is just a lie of the heart
The cold remains of what began with a passionate start
And they may not want it to end
But it will it's just a question of when
I've lived long enough to have learned
The closer you get to the fire the more you get burned
It's hard when you're always afraid
You just recover when another belief is betrayed
So break my heart if you must
It's a matter of trust
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haikupoet
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(Date Posted:03/26/2003 05:30:28)
Reply to : Ladyhawk
One of my passions is online gaming, mostly of the violent first-person shooter variety. Funny...I'm nearly a pacifist in real life, but I feel there's nothing wrong with a little virtual online bloodshed. My mother (and many fundies), on the other hand, detests violent video games, but supports real war. Weird, huh?Lately, I've become enthralled with Return to Castle Wolfenstein, though I do not know any of the maps except Beach.Any gamers on here who would like to join me?
Not so much a video gamer (though I do enjoy them), never MUDded, have yet to take a hit off the EverCrack pipe, but I used to be a pencil-and-paper RPGer in college, as well as a famously mediocre Magic and chess player. Star Wars (old West End Games version) and Vampire were my games of choice; oddly enough I don't think I've ever even owned a complete set of D&D (somewhere I do have 2nd ed Player and DM guides though), except for the basic set I had as a child.
I've tried some real-time strategy, but only Rainbow Six, which I can't get the hang of controlling. And I'm most unhappy about the demise of the Dreamcast, as I prefer Sega football to Madden and can't afford a Gamecube or PS2 and wouldn't go near the Xbox.
/Brian
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Trapped behind stained glass/It is hard to see how great/the world really is
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LibrarianBeth
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(Date Posted:03/26/2003 06:58:13)
*raises hand* Gamer.... married to a rabid Gamer.
Right now I am playing Casion Tycoon...very fun. Godzilla: All Monsters Must Die, Onimusha 2. I also love role-playing games. We belong to a gaming group and have 3 different games that run alternate weeks. Dungeons and Dragons (3rd edition) is my favorite. I may be running a game on the empty day as we have room in the schedule for a 4th game. There is an RPG coming out like D&D set in Bible times called Testament. I have to do it. It is just too... well.... priceless. So how many hit points does Moses have?
I love gaming! Our vacation is a cross-country trip to GenCon!
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I'm not bitter; I'm tangy!
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paginity2
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(Date Posted:03/26/2003 07:11:28)
 DUDE!
Gamer here. I love RPG's and even did the paper and pencil games before my mom *convicted me*[  isgusted;] about the evil sorcery and de demons. I occasionaly beta test for a shareware company and I've worked for a couple of game companies (free t-shirts. Now I'm in the middle of developping a game.
Wolfenstein halt! I love watching others play the serious games, I don't own any consoles except my gameboy. Wish I did, though, I've been dying to play Godzilla Destroy All Monsters. How is it?
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Fermez ta bouche et mangez tes fritures de liberté.
"Unless we each conform,
Unless we obey orders,
Unless we follow our leaders blindly;
There is no possible way we can remain free."
Major Frank Burns
"People are like glass windows. They sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is light from within."
-Elisabeth Kübler-Ross
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RavenSilverheart
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(Date Posted:03/26/2003 23:32:34)
I'm an RPGer myself. Did a lot of online bulletin-board based RPGs online until I went to college and got too busy to keep up with all of them.
I play mostly fantasy RPGs and then some Star Wars stuff on my PS2. I was so thrilled to get it and I now have a raging addiction to Final Fantasy. I've been tempted to try Everquest, but as someone mentioned earlier... It's probably easier to quit your crack habit.
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"There are three topics which are taboo as far as Americans are concerned...[and one is] the total atheist who lives a happy and useful life and dies in his sleep at the age of 106."
- Vladimir Nabokov, introduction to Lolita
"Perhaps we should focus on the positive aspect of video games. For example, children can pick up real world experience in the event that the earth is taken over by monsters and the only thing that can save humanity is magical swords, rocks, and...playing cards."
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gregpstone
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(Date Posted:03/31/2003 16:14:48)
Reply to : Ladyhawk
One of my passions is online gaming, mostly of the violent first-person shooter variety. Funny...I'm nearly a pacifist in real life, but I feel there's nothing wrong with a little virtual online bloodshed. My mother (and many fundies), on the other hand, detests violent video games, but supports real war. Weird, huh?Lately, I've become enthralled with Return to Castle Wolfenstein, though I do not know any of the maps except Beach.Any gamers on here who would like to join me?
I'd love those online games but don't have the time for them. I play Warlords by e-mail and have played with folks form all over the world. I started with standard games and chess. Progressed to Avalon Hill and SPI titles. Then to D&D, fantasy and military miniatures. I remember staying up all night and using the entire living room in my first house to reenact the Battle of Mobile Bay.
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We've all got holes to fill
Them holes are all that's real
Some fall on you like a storm
Sometimes you dig your own
Where ya been is good and gone
All you keep is the gettin there ..... To Live is to Fly - Townes Van Zandt
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Voltaire
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(Date Posted:04/12/2003 01:33:20)
For several years before I deconverted I was nuts about computer games. I never was too interested in the FPS games like Castle Wolfenstein. RTS games like Total Annihilation and Command & Conquer were more my style. I also liked TBS games like Alpha Centauri and Call To Power II. Civilization II was a little before my time.
I get a kick out of that feeling of power as you order your units here and there, like you're some deity interfering in the lives of mere mortals. I also have had a life long fascination with maps which makes these "god" type games appealing to me. There's also nothing like having a whole battlefield ablaze with bullets, bombs, rockets, and swooping fighter aircraft.
For the last year or two I've lost interest computer gaming but that may be coming to an end. I just built a new computer and I went and bought 2 new games (Master of Orion 3 and Sim City 4) Haven't had a chance to try them out yet.
During my initial "crazy game period" I was still a Christian and experienced an awful lot of guilt about being so infatuated with games that were violent. I went through a long stage where I'd buy a game, play it for a while, and then throw it out (AGAIN!) when the guilt got so bad I couldn't stand it anymore. I'd been raised to belive "by beholding we become changed" and as afraid I might become some kind of criminal. When it didn't happen, it was just more evidence I'be been believing baloney.
Somewhere in the midst of playing lots of games and deconverting I came across a passage by Bertrand Russel. The essence of what he said was that if we ignore our aggressive impulses (don't Walk Aways have a lot of those?) we do it at our own peril:
We have all kinds of aggressive impulses, and also creative impulses, which society forbids us to indulge, and the alternatives it supplies in the shape of football matches and all-in wrestling are hardly adequate.
Anyone who hopes that in time it may be possible to abolish war should give serious thought to the problem of satisfying harmlessly the instincts that we inherit from long generations of savages. (Quoted in The Quotable Bertrand Russell, p. 51)
This made me straighten up in my chair and take notice. Instead of saying aggressive impulses are evil as I had been taught my whole life, Russell took what now appears to me a much more sensible approach. He thinks of them as natural and as something to be dealt with, instead of something to suppress. And now as I write this, I realized this was probably the start of a readjustment that ended up with me regularly encouraging Walk Away members to vent their anger and frustrations.
But back to video games. For several years now I've been keeping track of reports on research that tries to determine whether or not watching or simulating violence spills out into real life, creating violent people. The research I've read about gives no conclusive evidence. Some studies seem to indicate negative effects, others give no indication either way, others indicate it actually makes less people violent. No video game can make someone violent is just the last article of many I've read that points out the problems with this kind of research. There's also deliciously sarcastic commentary about the misguided efforts politicians are making to keep kids from buying violent games. The people who want to claim that simulated violence begets real violence have a lot of questions they so far haven't been able to prove.
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Zombies, Unicorns, Devils, Sea Monsters, Satyrs, Dragons, Six Winged Angels, Gods, Demons, Witches, Astrologers, A walking & talking snake, Magical fruit, Talking donkeys, human headed six-winged beasts, Ghosts. All that stuff is in the Bible and yet they tell me it"s not mythology?
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