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(Date Posted:02/07/2007 17:21:13)
Reply to : snakechic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVvl5D9fbzIwhat can I say.......( the only thing missing was an accordian.)?& that squeaky thing at the end too.....gawd! Inearly tossed up my coffee ........................pwwwwuooooooke!
I'm not sure, but I'd be willing to bet this is in Marietta, GA, the place where I received my "higher education." Ha-ha-hah-hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!  If so, it's actually a close suburb of Atlanta, where the sophisticated mingle with the retarded everyday, and then chaos erupts... 
Well, I had something really good in mind to put here that I found the other day, but now I can't find it to save my life--sorry! Bye...
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(Date Posted:02/08/2007 02:58:02)
snakechic
Is your point that some christian bands are really bad?
Aren't some non-christian bands also really bad?
If so, then all you're saying here is that some bands...are really bad.
How profound!! 
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(Date Posted:02/09/2007 13:58:28)
The United Pentecostal Church are a strange bunch...I used to know someone that went there. They said the UPC warned them against attending other churches, even those that were considered pentecostal or apostolic. He had to pray a certain way, dance a certain way, etc. He soon left, but unfortunately continued on the same road by attending charismatic church. The UPC in my area would sponsor end-time prophecy conferences, with speakers specialising in identifying the Mark of the Beast, and how to avoid it. Ugh. 
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(Date Posted:02/13/2007 23:54:48)
Yeah, that sounds familar. There are a heap of penticostal type churches that are quite similar to the UPC. I've heard that its possibly one of the most difficult sects to get out of your system. Hence the chruch hopping from one charasmatic place to another. End TImes is a biggie. Yuk is right.
but the music...I only attentended a few times before I flew the coup....its what triggers me the most. & for some strange reason penties (like in the clip I pasted) suddenly believe they are great musicians and singers. My sibling did too...its bad shit. They have drums banging away.....jeez!
I think the music and playing of instruments (very badly but who cares) is part & parcel of the 'brainwashing' or crowd containment or one of the promised spiritual gifts (that was a joke by the way). It sure does go towards group bonding, no one would dare complain or say what they really think.
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In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince people that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy person living in a natural, intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, woman(man) is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.
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(Date Posted:02/14/2007 00:22:19)
Reply to : snakechic
for some strange reason penties (like in the clip I pasted) suddenly believe they are great musicians and singers. My sibling did too...its bad shit. They have drums banging away.....jeez!I think the music and playing of instruments (very badly but who cares) is part & parcel of the 'brainwashing' or crowd containment or one of the promised spiritual gifts (that was a joke by the way). It sure does go towards group bonding, no one would dare complain or say what they really think.
My fundie experience was in a pentecostal church. I actually really liked the way that people who weren't THAT great would get up on stage and perform. Perhaps it's the Caledonian in me - "gi's us a song will ye!" I just love people trying. And how do you get good at something unless you try? People would follow their "calling from God" and venture out into trying these instruments and they would get such encouragement from everyone and they would "praise God - he's teaching me guitar!" and they would eventually get quite good!
I agree that the music is a huge part of the brainwashing. The bit they do where they play intsrumentals and everyone sings and chants in tongues till everyones in a trance like - easily suggestible state.
Also the guy (always a man) who was running the service would always ask for mood music whenever emotional prayer was being done. Even as a fundy I used to notice and wonder why. It seemed too much like showmanship to me. I felt, even then as blind as I was, that I was being emotionally manipulated.
Urgh - wankers.
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(Date Posted:02/15/2007 00:47:44)
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Urgh - wankers
Yeah...its pretty bad isn't it. & the remembering of it. I only attended around 4/5 times - honestly I couldn't have stood it much longer. I left the state for that & other reasons....& it was pretty much the last I heard of my sister....except for the constant phone message...'are you practising your tongue's today'. - then I had to say NO to her pastor..... She joined up out of the blue after 30 years of being a non chruch goer, and has been on a religious binge ever since. I'm 'shunned' btw....that's fine - I feel lucky. My sis...went as far as buying a grand piano to shove in one of her back rooms. ? She goes to a hall called 'the abundant life centre'...and boy do they take that literally. They have no compulsion to feel anything for anyone who aren't wealthy or at least getting up in the world. Poor people hah!
The music is one the most 'triggering' memories for me...from my Seven Day Adventist upbringing as well. I really detest it. The way people look when they sing.....look as if they have lost themselves. It makes my feel sick & I don't intend on being 'cured' from it by going to chruch.
I thought is was cute when my little niece started learning how to play the accordion...then later the violin. I was so naive - at the time I didn't know what kind of church they were going to. Later, when my niece was older...she was forbidden to explore her obvious musical talent because the Music School in Adelaide hired Homosexuals. She stopped playing eventually, as of now..at 22yrs she has been married to one of the congregation members for over a year. I don't know, she may have kid now too.?
So much for music.
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