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(Date Posted:10/31/2005 01:53:37)
Reply to : HolyandSinful
Great! this is gonna cost me a fortune in blue body paint.
body paint ! Hey...you may note I have mine on right now! and kissing yummy....but not just with anyone old person - they gotta taste good.
Ted.....
Actually, I don't know the post you were talking about...since this thread was bumped back up I've been too afraid to go back and look at what I wrote back then! I haven't had a drink since back in June, and I can definitely tell that the sobriety has changed my sexual philosophy and my manner of "sexual expression."
Oh......I'm referring to the very first post - you deleted it almost straight after you introduced this thread 3 years ago. <shrug> nothing to be embarrassed about.
I know what you are going through................most people feel like that.(the world is different now) and the first year is tough! I don't think you've changed as such.....and take my word.......sex is MUCH BETTER sober - for you and your partner! It will come back to you ....but the confidence will be real and you'll feel every sensation more....its cool......but it takes time.
I forgot to mention that my artwork and journeying changed and I miss my 'inner goth'....and dark powers....whooohee
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(Date Posted:10/31/2005 04:52:55)
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(Date Posted:11/03/2005 10:17:45)
the best way to experience sex is with someone you really love...
OR... while embraced in the warm glow of a mind-altering substance. nothing like a little buzz gets me roaring...and it deadens the pain a little so you can take more (am i saying too much?)
biting is AMAZING...esp when your partner likes it too...
water, anywhere.
doing it on a boat...the thought of it could entice me to spend every penny on one.
big hands that cover my ass completely...total turn on...
and... hmmmmm...
sweat, not really stinking nasty just-came-in-from-the pature sweat, but sweat is good. then again, so is just-outta-the-shower clean.
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(Date Posted:11/03/2005 19:55:48)
Athenamarina:
OK I get the impression I should be just counting down the days till my hubby cheats? Cos that's what it sounds like some of you are saying! Or till I do?
Don't worry AM. We're talking impulses, not necessarily actions.
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Harvey Pekar: "Well maybe I c"n learn from their mistakes."
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(Date Posted:11/07/2005 00:08:54)
Update about monogamy....
Last time I talked about this I was married for only a couple of days. Well now I've been married for couple of years and I guess I can talk about this from a married person's point of view.
I think monogamy is a matter of choice and trust. And being honest with yourself and others. I firmly believe that people who can't be monogamous shouldn't be in exclusive relationships. It is just not fair to the other person who expects fidelity (assuming the other one isn't a cheater). Cheating is breaking a promise, saying one thing while doing another, living a life of lies and deceit, and that can never end well. If two people can't be together they should just split. If you're not willing to keep a promise, you better not stay married. Everything gets complicated exponentially when kids are involved.
As to whether monogamy is natural or not, it all depends on background, culture, way of thinking, morality, etc. It comes naturally to some people, but to vast majority it doesn't (look at all the cheaters and divorces...) The problem is that people try to find everything in one person and that isn't possible. High expectations also play part. People never really behave the way we expect them to.
My personal opinion of monogamy: unfortunately (or fortunately some might say) our western civilization's foundation is union between a man and a woman that produces children (or adopts if it can't produce). Americans are obsessed with family, celebrities having babies, oh what a huge deal, she's a mommy! Awwww... kids come first and so on. Well yes they do but they're tremendous responsibility and a lot of people should never have had any.
Anyway... I wish our society is more open minded, but it doesn't look it'll be any time soon... I'm horrified at all the struggle to illegalize abortion again, and why deny gays marriage? Why anyone wants to get married so much anyway, it doesn't really solve any problems, just adds more. It's just a big legal hassle.
I'm just rambling now... I'm just pretty much disappointed by society and it's so called morals.
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(Date Posted:11/08/2005 03:08:06)
Reply to : freebird75
As to whether monogamy is natural or not,
Umm...I don't think monogamy is unnatural or the other way round 'natural' - ........just an easier choice or less effort for some people. I think it takes hard work to get to a stage in a relationship where its not a risk factor......I've talked to hundreds and hundreds of people who have had something like this happen in their lives. Of course - it doesn't just happen at all...pardon my language.
Infidelity usually ends in a break in relationship and affects the whole family. However I've also talked to many people who suffered and are in crisis when the relationship breaks down for other reasons......its all incredibly painful. Bit like the loss of meaning in its depth of pain...I guess we WAers know that one and can relate? I've felt very betrayed by the 'christian fundy' experience if you know what I mean....so naive.
Betrayal feels horrible - yep I agree its about expectations.
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