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(Date Posted:11/12/2004 02:48:14)

Heya there, folks! I'm Bill Mutz, like in the title. I became interested in politics when I was I was seven or thereabouts, became an agnostic at about the age of eleven, decided that religion's a big crock when I was fourteen, and told my parents that I consider their religion a bunch of hokey nonsense when I was about eighteen. My parents were pretty upset when I "came out" to them, mostly because I was a little, to put it lightly, blunt, for I'd been trying to tell them gently ever since I was about fourteen. In fact, they talked about disowning me. I'm not a nasty sort of person, really, but I do have a keen sense of justice. Nothing bugs me more than blatant hypocrisy or hateful discrimination, and when I or someone I know becomes victim of it, I tend to become fairly mean. Therefore, my initial reaction was to stay in their faces about it, also discussing, with little beating around the bush, their main flaws of character and probable descent in tones loud enough to bother the neighbors, until they finally came around to my way of looking at things. I'm currently taking a semester off from college for various personal reasons but will be starting classes again in January, and they're paying for it. They had no such intention before I officially outed myself, but I used their highly self-serving and bigoted reactions to dicovering me to be an atheist to shame them into it. Machiavellian, I know, but, besides being due compensation, it's saving me truckloads of money. So, I am sure that plenty of you are wondering why I am here. Well, to put it simply, I'd like to try giving support to those still struggling with the harsh realities often involved with "walking away." That's almost as bad as the psychological impact it has on some people. Mostly, they just need someone to call a friend until they start meeting new people and realize that losing all of their fundamentalist buddies isn't the end of the world. ttfn

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(Date Posted:11/12/2004 07:14:27)

I'm glad you decided to join us and appreciate any more help around here I can get. I also would like to say I wish I'd had the guts to leave my religion when I was a teenager; it would have saved me many years of pointlessly trying to make religion work for me. Welcome to Walk Away!

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Zombies, Unicorns, Devils, Sea Monsters, Satyrs, Dragons, Six Winged Angels, Gods, Demons, Witches, Astrologers, A walking & talking snake, Magical fruit, Talking donkeys, human headed six-winged beasts, Ghosts. All that stuff is in the Bible and yet they tell me it"s not mythology?

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(Date Posted:11/12/2004 12:24:50)

Blame it on the dinosaurs. I've been crazy for them ever since I was a little boy. They made the world seem so big and full of possibilities.

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(Date Posted:11/13/2004 12:01:09)

Hey Bill, welcome. I've enjoyed your posts. I, too, really liked dinosaurs when I was a kid. I drew them, read about them, bought dinosaur models. I can still name quite a few...

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(Date Posted:11/14/2004 14:02:56)

Reply to : Bill Mutz

So, I am sure that plenty of you are wondering why I am here. Well, to put it simply, I'd like to try giving support to those still struggling with the harsh realities often involved with "walking away." That's almost as bad as the psychological impact it has on some people. Mostly, they just need someone to call a friend until they start meeting new people and realize that losing all of their fundamentalist buddies isn't the end of the world.

Thanks Bill ... I think.   your cv and mo remind me of some recent visitors.  They arrived here with a big splash as well, and had similar reasons - not actually walking away themselves, they were here to 'help'.  Please forgive me if this is unwarranted, but once bitten twice shy! 

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(Date Posted:11/17/2004 01:51:03)

Hey -- I ought to say welcome, but I don't know as it would be proper for a newcomer. I loved dinosaurs when I was little, too! They were one of my favourite subjects when selecting books. I had some plastic models, too, and a couple ceramic ones. Um... except I'm a girl.. BTW, don't worry, your university situation is likely far better than what I did... x_x

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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 03:34:39)

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Hey Bill, welcome. I've enjoyed your posts. I, too, really liked dinosaurs when I was a kid. I drew them, read about them, bought dinosaur models. I can still name quite a few...




Same here. I thought about being a palientologist when I grew up but realized I have to spell it on all my job applications!
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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 03:55:37)

Hehe!! I did too, except it was BEFORE i grew up; I was only little... :\ I am terrible w/ science

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(Date Posted:11/18/2004 18:30:29)

My little brother has a scary knowledge of dinosaurs, and you can't go into the bathroom witout climbing over a few of them, though, as he will point out, not all of them are technically dinosaurs, some predate them.  (I did say his knowledge was scary)

Welcome Bill, what are you studying at uni?

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